This discussion definitely provided me with some helpful information as I am currently trying to tackle my final project. The piece that was shown I thought was actually rather contradicting. With this project, we are NOT supposed to literally represent our 3 themes, however, this piece had 3 separate sections that "literally" represented the three different themes. I'm not saying that the project was not successful, rather I just found it fascinating that it was it was both visually representing the themes, but successfully only in the way Raph told the class to do so. If that makes any sense at all, in any event the piece definitely forced me to brainstorm about my approach to this project.
As an overall reflection on the class, I must say I enjoyed it very thoroughly. Aside from several minute technical difficulties and some videos with poor quality, I think this class was a definite success. Raph's travels and interviews definitely provided inspiration and ideas in the projects that were assigned throughout the semester. Aside from the brutal 8am wake up call, the online classes were definitely worth attending. The atmosphere was great and there was very seldom a dull moment. I would think some sort of arranged group/class trip to somewheres overseas to experience the overwhelming creativity would be extremely beneficial
The discussion over everyones ideas was very insightful into how the three words can relate to a single piece. If i hadn't already finished mine i might have considered doing what Raph said and having a single object or thing present throughout the entire piece as a way to tie everything together. Also coming up with a concept first and then figuring out the technical aspect is a good way for doing this type of work if not all work and is something I'm going to have to consider in the future.
As for the class I must say that I have really enjoyed it. It's amazing that from England I have been able to have been brought images from Orono and all over Europe. While there were a few technical errors that were to have been expected with such an innovative idea they still didn't ruin the experience of the class.
- trial and error - develop a theme through the piece, a link that ties the three words together - high production value - how can I push myself visually?
Learning how to develop an idea and represent it visually is an essential part of creating any art, if not the most important aspect, and I've definitely gained an understanding of the process and my process of thinking, through the various projects.
I think it's important to separate the brainstorming phase from the technology. Fleshing out an idea should be first priority and then considering a medium to represent that idea should be second. I can't say I've actually really followed this process since the desired medium was always sort of inherent. But what sort of messages and audiences can you reach with the same idea using different media?
I think that my original comment of my idea was misunderstood in that, I actually did have a conceptual idea first and then found a way technically that I was interested in representing that idea. My original concept of man's addiction to machine was a basic idea to start with and along the conceptual development way I ended up coming up with different ways to technically represent that.
The discussion itself was great because I believe it instilled different ideas in all of us as to how to carry out our final pieces. It's really a shame that some people have already "finished" their projects, but didn't have this lecture or any other ideas of input because they thought it was due last week.
Overall I believe that seeing a piece like Olney Atwell's gave me some ideas in terms of presentation as to how one might tie together three different terms that can span a variety of visual meanings. I look forward to finishing the piece within the next few days!
Usually when I have to discuss my plans for an upcoming project I realize what weaknesses there are and this class didn't disappoint. Watching the examples helped open up my thinking in terms of this project. It is extremely hard to escape literal representations, and to find metaphor. As far as the class is concerned, I thought it was enjoyable, if a bit early in the morning. What made this class interesting was that Raphael was actually doing stuff while he was gone, all the lectures were not just him at home in Portland. I've never been a real subtle person in my work, but this class did get me thinking more in terms of metaphor, and outside of the standard narrative structure.
I think that the information provided in this was essential to understanding what is actually being asked of us for the final project. To separate each situation (ritual, sacrifice, devotion) instead of bulking them into one individual idea. I get the impression that a lot of this project can be dealt with metaphorically. I talked with Brian Monohan about this for a while, the idea of focusing on a big picture situation the these three attributes are a part of and moving through this big picture through imagery to represent the idea. I've been in the process of breaking down my idea and it's coming together nicely, this lecture helped me understand things more in depth.
In terms of the class, it's personally been somewhat of a struggle for me to keep up, although that's my own issue. Other then that everything asked of us has been explained really well and the organization has been better then I expected.
I believe this lecture could have really helped me along with my project, but considering the circumstances and being abroad I was unable to have this lecture then do a project. It was intersecting to see others work and the discussions about it, I believe I will work on my piece again on a alter date, or take what I have gotten form this lecture and apply it to future work.
OK so I know I am late on this posting so I am going to share some of my preliminary notes on developing my project:
Ritual: start to build to a fire. -Dark frame, only noise, hopefully the viewer becomes more in tune with what they are hearing. -Also you are so accustomed to the ritual seeing it is not important,
Sacrifice: set wood on fire -Sacrificing of the wood. -Destroying a life for short term benefits, head and light
Devotion: Put the fire out -What is being devoted is unclear. -the dedication +loyalty=work is the devotion
I want a piece that is going to be simple. The dark frame in the beginning sets the scene. I don’t want the frame to be clutter with montage and various objects like my pervious projects have been. The theme for this is simple. I want the viewer to see that.
My piece is going to be (in a very abstract way) about ritualistic consumption, the devotion to what we consume, and the sacrifice needed to let it go. I will be displaying these words in a linear fasion, sort of as a cycle. Ritual->Devotion->Sacrifice.
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This discussion definitely provided me with some helpful information as I am currently trying to tackle my final project. The piece that was shown I thought was actually rather contradicting. With this project, we are NOT supposed to literally represent our 3 themes, however, this piece had 3 separate sections that "literally" represented the three different themes. I'm not saying that the project was not successful, rather I just found it fascinating that it was it was both visually representing the themes, but successfully only in the way Raph told the class to do so. If that makes any sense at all, in any event the piece definitely forced me to brainstorm about my approach to this project.
As an overall reflection on the class, I must say I enjoyed it very thoroughly. Aside from several minute technical difficulties and some videos with poor quality, I think this class was a definite success. Raph's travels and interviews definitely provided inspiration and ideas in the projects that were assigned throughout the semester. Aside from the brutal 8am wake up call, the online classes were definitely worth attending. The atmosphere was great and there was very seldom a dull moment. I would think some sort of arranged group/class trip to somewheres overseas to experience the overwhelming creativity would be extremely beneficial
The discussion over everyones ideas was very insightful into how the three words can relate to a single piece. If i hadn't already finished mine i might have considered doing what Raph said and having a single object or thing present throughout the entire piece as a way to tie everything together. Also coming up with a concept first and then figuring out the technical aspect is a good way for doing this type of work if not all work and is something I'm going to have to consider in the future.
As for the class I must say that I have really enjoyed it. It's amazing that from England I have been able to have been brought images from Orono and all over Europe. While there were a few technical errors that were to have been expected with such an innovative idea they still didn't ruin the experience of the class.
- trial and error
- develop a theme through the piece, a link that ties the three words together
- high production value
- how can I push myself visually?
Learning how to develop an idea and represent it visually is an essential part of creating any art, if not the most important aspect, and I've definitely gained an understanding of the process and my process of thinking, through the various projects.
I think it's important to separate the brainstorming phase from the technology. Fleshing out an idea should be first priority and then considering a medium to represent that idea should be second. I can't say I've actually really followed this process since the desired medium was always sort of inherent. But what sort of messages and audiences can you reach with the same idea using different media?
I think that my original comment of my idea was misunderstood in that, I actually did have a conceptual idea first and then found a way technically that I was interested in representing that idea. My original concept of man's addiction to machine was a basic idea to start with and along the conceptual development way I ended up coming up with different ways to technically represent that.
The discussion itself was great because I believe it instilled different ideas in all of us as to how to carry out our final pieces. It's really a shame that some people have already "finished" their projects, but didn't have this lecture or any other ideas of input because they thought it was due last week.
Overall I believe that seeing a piece like Olney Atwell's gave me some ideas in terms of presentation as to how one might tie together three different terms that can span a variety of visual meanings. I look forward to finishing the piece within the next few days!
Usually when I have to discuss my plans for an upcoming project I realize what weaknesses there are and this class didn't disappoint. Watching the examples helped open up my thinking in terms of this project.
It is extremely hard to escape literal representations, and to find metaphor.
As far as the class is concerned, I thought it was enjoyable, if a bit early in the morning. What made this class interesting was that Raphael was actually doing stuff while he was gone, all the lectures were not just him at home in Portland.
I've never been a real subtle person in my work, but this class did get me thinking more in terms of metaphor, and outside of the standard narrative structure.
I think that the information provided in this was essential to understanding what is actually being asked of us for the final project. To separate each situation (ritual, sacrifice, devotion) instead of bulking them into one individual idea. I get the impression that a lot of this project can be dealt with metaphorically. I talked with Brian Monohan about this for a while, the idea of focusing on a big picture situation the these three attributes are a part of and moving through this big picture through imagery to represent the idea. I've been in the process of breaking down my idea and it's coming together nicely, this lecture helped me understand things more in depth.
In terms of the class, it's personally been somewhat of a struggle for me to keep up, although that's my own issue. Other then that everything asked of us has been explained really well and the organization has been better then I expected.
I believe this lecture could have really helped me along with my project, but considering the circumstances and being abroad I was unable to have this lecture then do a project.
It was intersecting to see others work and the discussions about it, I believe I will work on my piece again on a alter date, or take what I have gotten form this lecture and apply it to future work.
OK so I know I am late on this posting so I am going to share some of my preliminary notes on developing my project:
Ritual: start to build to a fire.
-Dark frame, only noise, hopefully the viewer becomes more in tune with what they are hearing.
-Also you are so accustomed to the ritual seeing it is not important,
Sacrifice: set wood on fire
-Sacrificing of the wood.
-Destroying a life for short term benefits, head and light
Devotion: Put the fire out
-What is being devoted is unclear.
-the dedication +loyalty=work is the devotion
I want a piece that is going to be simple. The dark frame in the beginning sets the scene. I don’t want the frame to be clutter with montage and various objects like my pervious projects have been. The theme for this is simple. I want the viewer to see that.
My piece is going to be (in a very abstract way) about ritualistic consumption, the devotion to what we consume, and the sacrifice needed to let it go. I will be displaying these words in a linear fasion, sort of as a cycle. Ritual->Devotion->Sacrifice.
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