The idea of the home radio transmitters and the pirate telecommunications are brilliant. That sort of thing is what new media should be about. This sort of technology rewrites the one to many sort of ideal and can change history. Common people have always been at the whim of communications companies. It is also encouraging to see this sort if coop in another country. I believe support is needed aid these kinds of developments. I don't know of any artists coops in this region. Covert fascism. I don't think our society would support this sort of innovation, if it doesn't make money it ain't worth it, right? Is there any money made on any of these services?
I agree with Jacob and think the radio transmitters are insanely brilliant. Don't ask me why but it makes me think about the last Harry Potter book where they were making secret broadcasts that only people who had listened last week could listen again. I think it would be very interesting to try something like that. Just start doing a radio show on a certain channel, maybe not change it every week but maybe to make things interesting do it every once and awhile. I can't remember but I'm pretty sure you need a license to broadcast so it would be a pirate broadcast and in that way be very cool. You could even broadcast from different locations every show. Don't know why but that also reminds me of this TV show on Canadian TV I used to watch called Radio Free Roscoe, which was about Independent radio and how everyone was trying to find out who was doing it.
I thought the Bootlab session was quite inspiring. That is a place I would want to work. I'm curious if that is their primary job or just like a side project and how they sustain a living as a non-profit organization.
I think the Internet should be free anywhere and everywhere so it's nice to see that they are actually making it happen. I don't know of anything like this going on in the States, but perhaps there is. I think New Media has maybe two separate means: art/entertainment and practical advancement in technologies but Bootlab seems to be embracing both facets. Each member brings their own skills and abilities to create a truly collaborative environment where everyone has equal say. That's really what New Media is all about.
I thought the boot lab session was very informative because hearing from such a different group of people who have such different ideas yet who are in the same genre so to speak only added to my interest.
One of my favorite ideas was the one of personal radio transmitters. I seemed to like it so much because it had the most potential to lead to other things. It got me thinking on my own idea based on this idea: if there is public radio there, then wouldn't it be cool if all the ipods came with some sort of radio transmitter which shared the songs/playlists of other ipods near your vicinity...for completly free. Itunes already has this option built into it, and since I'm hooked up to the campus internet I can get access to other peoples playlists in my vicinity...so why not just make this idea wireless through ipods?
I agree with jess completely in that the internet should be free. It is becoming such a commodity and necessity that it should just be free....or extremely cheap. I thought of this earlier once when I was at an airport. I had a 4 hour layover and I had my laptop with me but of course the internet the airport was offering was 5$ for 2 hours. Cheap but not free. As I sat there I looked up at the tv and I realized that the entertainment that I was receiving from the tv was essentially free. I mean the airport was not going to charge me for looking at the cable tv, so why then should they charge me for looking at the internet? Is it not essentially the same thing?
It is very informing to look into a place where new media artist work, especially people outside the states.
Alot of people have touched on the subject of how the services are free and dont make any money; Jacob Powers says "if it doesn't make money it isn't worth it right?" Well wrong, I forget what magazine I was reading while standing in line at the store the other day but the headline to one article was the new way to make money was to make things free. Look at services like facebook or google, free to the user but yet they are making millions to billions of dollars. Heres a site that shows some sort of free ways to make money
The future of the world is hopefully going to be free trade of nearly everything we can make virtual over the internet. I think our society would support this sort of innovation and I think it will take off eventually in some form. I doubt this is the last time we hear about boothlab or someone doing somehting along the same lines.
Bootlab... essentially the underground media/art/innovation house.
One of the more ingenious ideas that I found was that if you wished to be a part of Bootlab you basically just purchase desk space and you can work there. Essentially the only thing that you would be there for would be a space to work as well as the opportunity for collaboration. With this open network idea beginning with the structure of the lab itself, it really helps to lead into many of their decentralized projects that they continue to develop.
I was really impressed with the ideas going on at Bootlab and how much media houses back home here could benefit from their ideas and approach. It seems that many of their ideas such as Freifunk, show a true attempt at decentralization and a method of getting away from capitalist ideals. Free internet service is an idea that has been around for awhile, but not really ever implemented. The ideas and methods at Bootlab are being brought to a large general public because of their motivation and passion for "new media" projects.
Whether it be interface art, international phone service, a free internet service and space, or literature/music crossover project, Bootlab truly represents what I would want to see in a collaborative media group. New Media in itself has no one set definition, but the ideas, collaboration, conceptual process, as well implementation is openly present within the walls of Bootlab.
A response to the computer by painting. I don't know why I haven't seen that before. I don't know if I spaced out and missed it, but has there been any official response to some of these projects they do? The phone thing, where they mentioned they could call a land line at a flat rate and circumvent long distance charges, seems like something the phone company would object to. I hope they continue to be successful, but I wonder how quickly it will be noticed. It reminds me of that "Captain Crunch" guy from the 60's or 70's. He had figured out how to use a cereal prize whistle to fool the Ma Bell computers into giving him free calls. I think they jumped on him real hard. I'd like to see their's in person.
This lecture made me think about the strange relationship between innovation and punishment in capitalist society. It seems whenever advances in technology allow for innovative creations and paradigm shifts, the movement begins with "hackers" and geeks Experimenting. Typically, their experiments threaten to liberate properties held by large companies. With money and the law and their side, these large companies often crush the innovators. It is not surprising to see these previously illegal or dangerous innovations return with the branding of some legitimate, authoritative company.
In America, it is hard to be a technological revolutionary because if you create something profound that could alter communications or any other major industry, you will either be silenced, punished, or bought out. This pattern is evident in Napster being shut down and revived as a moneymaking operation, the current persecution of a california engineer creating alternative fuel vehicles, and many other cases.
This was really cool and instantly made me think of hackers in earlier generations of our society. It's really interesting to see that these sort of things are still happening, all be it over seas. It shows the sort of thinking that innovative people from other countries have. I'm sort of jealous in the fact that hackers in America are destructive in all facets whereas people overseas are using hacking in a positive way.
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The idea of the home radio transmitters and the pirate telecommunications are brilliant. That sort of thing is what new media should be about. This sort of technology rewrites the one to many sort of ideal and can change history. Common people have always been at the whim of communications companies.
It is also encouraging to see this sort if coop in another country. I believe support is needed aid these kinds of developments. I don't know of any artists coops in this region.
Covert fascism. I don't think our society would support this sort of innovation, if it doesn't make money it ain't worth it, right? Is there any money made on any of these services?
I agree with Jacob and think the radio transmitters are insanely brilliant. Don't ask me why but it makes me think about the last Harry Potter book where they were making secret broadcasts that only people who had listened last week could listen again. I think it would be very interesting to try something like that. Just start doing a radio show on a certain channel, maybe not change it every week but maybe to make things interesting do it every once and awhile. I can't remember but I'm pretty sure you need a license to broadcast so it would be a pirate broadcast and in that way be very cool. You could even broadcast from different locations every show. Don't know why but that also reminds me of this TV show on Canadian TV I used to watch called Radio Free Roscoe, which was about Independent radio and how everyone was trying to find out who was doing it.
I thought the Bootlab session was quite inspiring. That is a place I would want to work. I'm curious if that is their primary job or just like a side project and how they sustain a living as a non-profit organization.
I think the Internet should be free anywhere and everywhere so it's nice to see that they are actually making it happen. I don't know of anything like this going on in the States, but perhaps there is. I think New Media has maybe two separate means: art/entertainment and practical advancement in technologies but Bootlab seems to be embracing both facets. Each member brings their own skills and abilities to create a truly collaborative environment where everyone has equal say. That's really what New Media is all about.
I thought the boot lab session was very informative because hearing from such a different group of people who have such different ideas yet who are in the same genre so to speak only added to my interest.
One of my favorite ideas was the one of personal radio transmitters. I seemed to like it so much because it had the most potential to lead to other things. It got me thinking on my own idea based on this idea: if there is public radio there, then wouldn't it be cool if all the ipods came with some sort of radio transmitter which shared the songs/playlists of other ipods near your vicinity...for completly free. Itunes already has this option built into it, and since I'm hooked up to the campus internet I can get access to other peoples playlists in my vicinity...so why not just make this idea wireless through ipods?
I agree with jess completely in that the internet should be free. It is becoming such a commodity and necessity that it should just be free....or extremely cheap. I thought of this earlier once when I was at an airport. I had a 4 hour layover and I had my laptop with me but of course the internet the airport was offering was 5$ for 2 hours. Cheap but not free. As I sat there I looked up at the tv and
I realized that the entertainment that I was receiving from the tv was essentially free. I mean the airport was not going to charge me for looking at the cable tv, so why then should they charge me for looking at the internet? Is it not essentially the same thing?
It is very informing to look into a place where new media artist work, especially people outside the states.
Alot of people have touched on the subject of how the services are free and dont make any money; Jacob Powers says "if it doesn't make money it isn't worth it right?" Well wrong, I forget what magazine I was reading while standing in line at the store the other day but the headline to one article was the new way to make money was to make things free. Look at services like facebook or google, free to the user but yet they are making millions to billions of dollars. Heres a site that shows some sort of free ways to make money
http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/02/22/10-new-ways-to-make-money-online/
The future of the world is hopefully going to be free trade of nearly everything we can make virtual over the internet. I think our society would support this sort of innovation and I think it will take off eventually in some form. I doubt this is the last time we hear about boothlab or someone doing somehting along the same lines.
I found the link to the real article that I was mentioning in my post above. Its actually:
http://www.wired.com/techbiz/it/magazine/16-03/ff_free
It is in "wired magizine" and it is called "Free! Why $0.00 is the Future of business."
Check it out!
Bootlab... essentially the underground media/art/innovation house.
One of the more ingenious ideas that I found was that if you wished to be a part of Bootlab you basically just purchase desk space and you can work there. Essentially the only thing that you would be there for would be a space to work as well as the opportunity for collaboration. With this open network idea beginning with the structure of the lab itself, it really helps to lead into many of their decentralized projects that they continue to develop.
I was really impressed with the ideas going on at Bootlab and how much media houses back home here could benefit from their ideas and approach. It seems that many of their ideas such as Freifunk, show a true attempt at decentralization and a method of getting away from capitalist ideals. Free internet service is an idea that has been around for awhile, but not really ever implemented. The ideas and methods at Bootlab are being brought to a large general public because of their motivation and passion for "new media" projects.
Whether it be interface art, international phone service, a free internet service and space, or literature/music crossover project, Bootlab truly represents what I would want to see in a collaborative media group. New Media in itself has no one set definition, but the ideas, collaboration, conceptual process, as well implementation is openly present within the walls of Bootlab.
A response to the computer by painting. I don't know why I haven't seen that before.
I don't know if I spaced out and missed it, but has there been any official response to some of these projects they do? The phone thing, where they mentioned they could call a land line at a flat rate and circumvent long distance charges, seems like something the phone company would object to. I hope they continue to be successful, but I wonder how quickly it will be noticed. It reminds me of that "Captain Crunch" guy from the 60's or 70's. He had figured out how to use a cereal prize whistle to fool the Ma Bell computers into giving him free calls. I think they jumped on him real hard. I'd like to see their's in person.
This lecture made me think about the strange relationship between innovation and punishment in capitalist society. It seems whenever advances in technology allow for innovative creations and paradigm shifts, the movement begins with "hackers" and geeks Experimenting. Typically, their experiments threaten to liberate properties held by large companies. With money and the law and their side, these large companies often crush the innovators. It is not surprising to see these previously illegal or dangerous innovations return with the branding of some legitimate, authoritative company.
In America, it is hard to be a technological revolutionary because if you create something profound that could alter communications or any other major industry, you will either be silenced, punished, or bought out. This pattern is evident in Napster being shut down and revived as a moneymaking operation, the current persecution of a california engineer creating alternative fuel vehicles, and many other cases.
This was really cool and instantly made me think of hackers in earlier generations of our society. It's really interesting to see that these sort of things are still happening, all be it over seas. It shows the sort of thinking that innovative people from other countries have. I'm sort of jealous in the fact that hackers in America are destructive in all facets whereas people overseas are using hacking in a positive way.
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